Re: particles of Japanese (Re: Tenchi's Juraian blood)
to | tenchi@ML.usagi.org
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from | Shuichi Koga <SKoga@cs.washington.edu>
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subject | Re: particles of Japanese (Re: Tenchi's Juraian blood)
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date | 31 Aug 1999 13:05:33 -0700
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Thanks for clearing it up for me. It is a nontrivial point though,
since members on this list have argued in the past that Kagato was
talking about Tenchi with that line. Unfortunately, I haven't actively
used Japanese in 5 years, so it's a little rusty ^_^;
Shuichi
>>>>> "head" == head <head@sainet.or.jp> writes:
> [snip]
>> Saisei could mean one of two things, depending on the kanji:
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>> 1) Regenerate
>> 2) Remanufacture
> Well, as you know, when Kagato said "saisei", he did NOT mean
> 'remanufacture (Tenchi)'. confidently, No. Any Japanese will not
> image "remanufacture" when he/she hear this words.
> This is a trivial subject, so please ignore if you are not interested in...
> Let's see Kagato's words in detail.
> "Koredeha saisei mo kikanu ka."
> "Koredeha" (pronounced: "korede wa")
> = "kore" + "de" + "wa" = this + in, on, with... +
> (determinater of the subject) = with this(sort of
> performance), in this situation, judging from this...
> "mo"
> = too, also, as well as, even, even if, though....(in this
> context, "even" seems appropriate)
> "kikanu" = "kiku"(verb) + "nu"(older negation particle. current, "nai")
> = be effective, function, work, be possible + no, not
> = not be able to, not be effective,...
> There is not the particle determining the past tense, so this word
> means the present tense or the future tense.
> "ka" = (basically, interrogative particle. in this context, he ask
> himself, in short,mean a monologue)
> The meaning of this sentense is determined by "mo" and "koredeha".
> He remanufactured (if he did) before he fall into "this" situation.
> If he wished to mean "remanufacture Tenchi", he had to say,(for example)
> "Yahari, saisei wa kikanu ka..."
> ("As I thought, I cannot remanufacture...")
> --
> Head
> head@sainet.or.jp
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