> > *sigh* This reminds me of the panic talk from folks on the left everytime 
> > a Republican wins.
> > When Reagan won, there was all of this paniced talk about how he was going 
> > to run in and
> > press the button.  He couldn't wait to start WWIII.  Blah, blah,
> > blah.  All the panic talk was a bunch of BS as Reagan had no such desire.
> 
> It's not panic talk in the least. It's a legitimate concern since
> Bush has this "Holier than thou" moral agenda that he is trying
> to place upon the whole world and our nation. His stances on
> Gay Marriage, Stem Cell Research, and Abortion Rights are
> right in front of you as shining examples of his convictions and
> what he wishes to accomplish while in presidency. 

1. Gay Marriage -- Kerry opposed it as well.  Eleven states had it on the ballot and
rejected it.  So that doesn't seem out of the mainstream.

2.  Stem Cell Research -- Bush is the ONLY president to fund it, a fact that gets
lost.  He just limited Federal support to exsisting lines.  He has never attempted
to block private funding of stem cell research, but then that would cost a company
money.

3.  Abortion -- OK, so he believes that life starts at conception and that abortion
= killing of a human life.  A lot of religious people believe this, even among those
who tend to be liberal otherwise.  :-P

> Then we
> can't forget about his sham of a war in IRAQ and the ineptitude
> he's shown time and time again when faced with tough decisions.

Explain.  

What about the war in Iraq is a sham?  Is it the troubles we are experiencing now?
If so, the US has experienced similar troubles in the past, namely in post-WWII Germany
and Japan.  The New York Times back then had several articles on the subject of
our "losing victory". 

Here are some quotes from Life magazine, January 7, 1946 titled "Americans Are Losing
the Victory in Europe":

"The troops returning home are worried. “We’ve lost the peace,” men tell you. “We
can’t make it stick.”

A tour of the beaten-up cities of Europe six months after victory is a mighty sobering
experience for anyone. Europeans. Friend and foe alike, look you accusingly in the
face and tell you how bitterly they are disappointed in you as an American. They
cite the evolution of the word “liberation.” Before the Normandy landings it meant
to be freed from the tyranny of the Nazis. Now it stands in the minds of the civilians
for one thing, looting. "

"Never has American prestige in Europe been lower. People never tire of telling you
of the ignorance and rowdy-ism of American troops, of out misunderstanding of European
conditions."

"They blame us for the corruption and disorganization of UNRRA. They blame us for
the fumbling timidity of our negotiations with the Soviet Union. They tell us that
our mechanical de-nazification policy in Germany is producing results opposite to

those we planned. “Have you no statesmen in America?” they ask. " 

"The taste of victory had gone sour in the mouth of every thoughtful American I met.
Thoughtful men can’t help remembering that this is a period in history when every
political crime and every frivolous mistake in statesmanship has been paid for by

the death of innocent people. The Germans built the Stalags; the Nazis are behind
barbed wire now, but who will be next? Whenever you sit eating a good meal in the
midst of a starving city in a handsome house requisitioned from some German, you find

yourself wondering how it would feel to have a conqueror drinking out of your glasses.
When you hear the tales of the brutalizing of women from the eastern frontier you
think with a shudder of of those you love and cherish at home.

That we are one world is unfortunately a brutal truth. Punishing the German people
indiscriminately for the sins of their leader may be justice, but it is not helping
to restore the rule of civilization. The terrible lesson of the events of this year

of victory is that what is happening to the bulk of Europe today can happen to American
tomorrow. "

Americans were screwing everything up according to press reports.  We were hated by
some of the locals.  Some of our boys continued to killed by insurgents.  And we still
have lots of troops in Germany and Japan to this day!  :-P

> Reagan wasn't the greatest man to have ever lived, but at least
> he had common sense.
> 

*lol*  Yeah, but back in the 80's, people abused him like the abuse President Bush
today.

> > So take a deep breath and watch some Tenchi (or other anime).  ;-D
> 
> meh, it's bitching day. :-p
> 

Actually, it was a smegging work day, but at least I got to see the new "Battlestar
Galactica" last night.  Yay!  ^_^