Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Joseph Riggs" To: tenchi@usagi.org Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2005 04:53:48 -0500 Message-Id: <20050409095348.5F854CA07A@ws7-4.us4.outblaze.com> Subject: [tenchi:105868] Re: Re:OVA 19 Reply-To: tenchi@gold.win.jp ML-Count: 105868 Precedence: bulk ----- Original Message ----- > From: "True Sheol" To: tenchi@usagi.org Subject: [tenchi:105866] Re: Re:OVA 19 Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 22:33:31 -0500 > > Reply at end. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, from what we've seen in the new OVA series, there's > nothing noteworthy about knocking Ryoko around. Remember our > thread a while back about the fact that Ryoko seems to be a > physical pushover lately?< > > Who is the one that Ryouko is terrified of? Misaki. Who > else is Ryouko afraid of? Washuu. In a household of exceptional > girls, Ryouko was never above everyone else. The difference is > that Misaki and Washuu could outmatch her with zero effort. > And why is she scared of them? Because they were able to casually beat her in a physical confrontation. Except that Airi has done that too, and we don't seem to be speculating on whether or not Airi is a goddess. We had a thread about this a while back, when the second episode of the new series aired. It wasn't Misaki's casual method of dealing with Ryoko that provoked the thread. It was that other people seemed to be doing it just as easily. Suddenly, the dreaded pirate of the spaceways was looking like a pushover. I'm sorry if you don't see it, but its basically a massive failure on the part of Kajishima. This isn't a class where people are expected to read extraneous materials that aren't necessarily assigned in class. Its an animated show that's presented as entertainment, and as such people should be able to view it as its own product. AstroNerdBoy said - >I understand your point. However, there's one major difference between "Star Wars" and TM!R. The "Star Wars" novels are not considered canon any more than the "Star Trek" novels are. The TM!R novels are considered canon as are the doujinshi, so that's a big difference. Fine. If you want to get anal about it, then I'll turn to something else that pretty much fits this situation to a 'T'. JMS personally dealt with the various Babylon 5 comic books. They're canon. And the stunt that Kajishima pulled would be like JMS making a significant plot point of Babylon 5 Season Four revolve around something that was never mentioned except in the comic books. Are there things that are revealed in the comic books that shed light on what happens in the Babylon 5 TV series or the background? Yes. Do you get a better appreciation for certain characters by reading the comic book stories? Presumeably (haven't read any of them myself, although I do know what one story is about). Was an established part of the series (character, plot, location, etc...) going to undergo a radical change that hadn't been hinted at during the series, but only in the comic book stories? Not a chance in Hell. And conversely, were there things in the TV series that shed light on the stories in the comic books? Yes. Do you get a better appreciation for certain characters in the comic books by seeing the TV series? Presumeably. Was an established part of the comic book story going to undergo a radical change that hadn't been hinted at during the comic book, but only in the TV series? Not a chance in Hell. You provide the background, no matter how minimal it ends up being. You drop clues, even if its only a seeming throwaway line that doesn't make sense until later (Season 1, Giribaldi makes a seeming throwaway comment about hiking out of the desert with Sinclair - Season 3, we find out what he was doing in the desert). You set things up so that people can look back and say, "Oh, that makes sense." And you provide enough information to make it clear afterwards what exactly is a clue, and what exactly is just random filler. You don't put the clues in an entirely different medium, and expect people to know what's going on. junior -- _______________________________________________ NEW! Lycos Dating Search. The only place to search multiple dating sites at once. http://datingsearch.lycos.com