On 1 Oct 1995, Wei-Hwa Huang wrote:

> C h a e <paladine@p.imap.itd.umich.edu> writes:
> >	Mousse did fairly well against female Ranma, as Dr. Tofu pointed 
> >out.  Female Ranma fairly easily (implied since there is only one panel 
> >in manga) defeated Shampoo.  So take that as you will.  Maybe if Mousse 
> >goes all out against Shampoo, he might be able to defeat her.
> >	The counter side of this is that the female Ranma's difficulty 
> >with Mousse can be attributed at least partially to his unfamiliarity 
> >with his/her reach in female form.  So while that doesn't completely 
> >invalidates my theory, it certainly does casts some doubt.
> 
>   Shampoo has been steadily 
> defeating Mousse since they were kids, so what makes you think that
> Mousse has stopped trying?  If he could defeat Shampoo, he'd have done
> it long ago.  I mean, he's practically a slave at the Nekohanten.  Why
> torture himself like that if he could just defeat Shampoo once and win her
> love and respect?

	You're an idiot!!  I'm not holding back anymore, let's face it, 
man.  Mousse doesn't want to hurt Shampoo, got it!!  WOu ld you try and 
hurt the one you loved intentionally?  He's in a stupid position, like 
all the Ranma characters.  Ranma could easily tell Akane he loves her and 
get Shampoo and Ukyou off his back, 
but he's too stubborn.  Ranma can tell Akane about Ryouga being a pig and 
that would be over, but its too late and he likes and respects Ryouga in 
a strange way.  Same as Mousse, Mousse can easily defeat her but 1) he 
wants her to love him for him not because he defeated her and 2) he 
doesn't want to hurt her.

>   As for comparing things with Ranma, Mousse had to win the first few 
> fights.  No one wants to read manga where the hero always wins.  But
> you'll notice that this was (a) the first time Ranma ever fought Mousse
> and his arsenal of secret weapons and (b) the first time Ranma ever 
> fought seriously as a female against a male.  Inexperience was with Ranma.
> There's no way the current Mousse could even approach the current Ranma,
> unless by surprise, and then Ranma will probably prevail anyway (virtue
> of being the main character).  In short, I don't think claiming that
> Mousse basically was winning his first fight with Ranma was fair game
> for the argument.

	Listen, I'm speaking from experience here.  THere are plenty of 
times when Ranma fights Mousse, and let me tell you, its a hell of a 
battle each time, OK?  And its not even a fair fight cause Shampoo keeps 
interfering and hurting Mousse more, OK?
	Now your other argument that his first fight with Ranma is not 
fair doesn't matter.  Girl Ranma defeated Shampoo, right?  Mousse and 
girl Ranma pretty even, no?  (it doesn't matter what it'd be like later 
on in the manga since Shampoo never goes up in strength)  Thus Mousse can 
easily beat Shampoo.  I don't see whats 
so hard to understand here.  Get over your fascination for that Chinese 
tart.  And your a) is stupid cause Ranma always wins and your b) is 
almost just as lame cause you're not trying to argue Ranma vs Mousse and 
you're wrong too since I just told you above that Mousse has gotten close 
many a times.

RR [Being Pissed]