Ugh


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from !~*Smimmergirl*~! <Smimmergirl_@excite.com>
subject Ugh
date Wed, 31 May 2000 19:18:09 -0700 (PDT)

Stiff-chan:

>Goodie.  Though I already spoiled the suspense for you, you already >knew
it was him. ^_^ 


With the first sentences going along "I have to see HER." I kind
of got who it was.  I've finished the whole first part, the
"Cast a Long Shadow"?  That was BAD-ASS!!  I'm still trying
to decide if like Old-Ranma or New-Ranma better.  See,
Old Ranma has still got the "Hell yeah" attitude, but
New Ranma has a sense of humor.  A GOOD one, and he
and Ryouga can just yuuk it up and I LIKE that. ^_^


>Just like in vol. 32... ^_^  Ranma's not cold-blooded, you know.  Just 
>because he's not as quick to pounce on female flesh as Hiroshi or DAisuke, 
>that doesn't mean he's totally inept with girls. ^_^ 

HELL Yeah!!  I've always had this idea of Ranma as even though he's
not exactly Mr.Pimpster here.. (okay, some would argue he is, but
he's about as chaste as the come) he still would be the take-charge
kind of man once he got.... er... started ^_^.

>Then why don't you check out the Ranma Project? 

Ranmascan.org?  Where do you think I got the whole TWO BOOKS under
my belt.  I'm on the 19th book right now.  I'm poor white trash *le sigh* so
I have no money.  I could probably beg and plead, but if I got a manga that
would mean no money for midnight bowling, Whataburger, and the all important
movie theaters.  Sorry, I love Ranma, but I can't make that kind of
sacrifice!  I MUST HAVE THEM BOTH!! *giggles*

Imbalre:

>*lol* I read it too....It was soo funny.... 

That was the one with the "Boogie Master Soun Tendo" right? *blinks*
WHAT STORY WAS THAT?!?! *sighs* I think it was Furiken Summer, but
I could be wrong.

>Someone in this ML once said that Ranma wouldn't know what to do 
>with a girl,unless he was challanged to a "knocking-boots" battle or 
>something... 

I read a story about that too.  It was really very good.  *blinks*
Who wrote it..?  Oh yes, I THINK it was Lord Archive.  Anyway,
every one under the Ranmaverse sun in the right age group was put
into ONE class at the begining of the year.  So Mousse, Ryouga
and Ranma were put into gym class together... and well, as gym
conversations go..... ^_^;  It was a GOOD story though.  I thought
it was funny.. (The part where Kodachi froke Mikado with her famous
roses and doodled "Hentai" and other words on his forehead with
Marks-A-Lot markers.. Then Hiroshi and Daisuke scribble some rainbows
and flowers and stuff... ^_^)


Bard:

>As I watched the music videos at the end of "One flew 
>over the Kuno's Nest"

THERE WAS MUSIC VIDEOS AT THE END?!?! OH *bleep bleep* ME!!
*sighs*  I just returned that!  Damnit.

Oh well, I'll rent it again just to see that cool scene at the begining
where Kuno shows his mighty greatness. ^_^

>Mousse...many people complain these voices are 
>terrible, but after examining them I found they really 
>kinda suit their characters. 

I don't like Mousse's voice.  He sounds like he just got racked!  I swear. I
mean, it's a good voice and all, just not for Mousse.  I mean, come on,
Sarah Strange does a MANLY voice (does she ever! It's perfect for Ranma!)
and she's a WOMAN!  






SoW:

<snip not hitting women conversation>

Well, it depends on the situation.  If any chick comes at you with a knife,
gun, or other sharp-pointy-thing, I say knock the hell out of her. 
Brandishing a weapon shows an intent to kill/maim/injure, and then your life
becomes at risk.  So that means it's time to defend yourself.

If a chick bitch smacks you for being a jack-ass, (weither you were or
not)  As long as she is only going to give you a few bruises, you take
your lumps, and run like a mofo ^_^.

Mel-wuss hit me once, and he got his butt kicked.  Of course,
I didn't do it, I was too busy crying. >_<;  Uber-violent Crissy and
Christine did.  And of course Robbie, (the only guy at our table)
just sat there.  I was like "this is not cool!"

>but I've been hit by both sexes before, and I can 
>honestly say, guys do not hit near as hard. 

Chicks don't hold back. ^_^ Seriously though, I've seen some NASTY
fights before.  This chick at our school, Crystal, she goes AT IT.
She's got a rage disorder or something, but I've seen her put
some body in the hospital.  I remember once she had Stephanie Hardaway
put against the wall and was banging her head into it. *cringes*


Shour-dude:
>The support of MP3 distribution is considered such discussion by Hitoshi 
>(and I, as a performing musician, agree with him).

*eeks*  ANYWAY, moving on.

>Whichever you choose to purchase, I leave to your own concience... 

I'm not sure that's such a good idea any more. ^_^;



Shinobu:

>Nope, I haven't heard the "waiting to exhale" cut,

I'll send you the lyrics later.  It's a doubly ho song. ^_^

>It's a womans perogative to change her mind!! 

Oh yeah. ^_^

That reminds me of the whole White Diamonds comerical!
A woman's perogative, to change her mind.
A MAN's perogative, to change it back . ^_^

>Kuno: "Be Silent WOMAN"!!

Kuno is just extremely bad ass in my book.  He kicks even Ranma's ass
at times. =0P JUST KIDDING!!  He and Ranma are right up there, and
then Ryouga and Mousse are grappling for second place.	

>The thing about the X-files is this, after ALL the 
>stuff you've seen, is there a social life??

Mulder's social life is hanging out with the lone gunmen, watching
porn, playing basketball, and the occasional swim with in the red
speedos. ^_^


Bradster:

>What's love got to do with arranged marraige in Japan? 

Nothing.  But she claims to love him.  *shrugs*  

>I can just see Ranma with a beer gut, wearing stained shorts and a >wife-
beater.

Ewwwwww!! I can see the 2-days beard growth and glasses and yellow
teeth that match that picture. *shakes her head*  Nastyyyyyyy!

>Wants to buy a cat and name it Skittles.

I wanted to name an animal skittles too, so don't worry ^_^


Corwin-chick:
>As for Akane defending herself.... Riiiight. That's why she is always
getting
>kidnapped, or loses to any martial artist that happens to show up. She 
>is most formidable by our standards, but she is practically a weakling
>in Nerima.

Actually, as Nabiki put it in a story I read once, "People forget that
before all these people showed up, Akane was the best in Nerima."

Akane can defend herself very well.  She WAS the best in Nerima, after
all.  It's just, when Ranma is as good as he is, his main competition
is going to be near his level.  So when they all follow him in town...

It's like me going up against a Grammy winner.  It's not saying
I'm not good on my own, and that I can't HOLD my own, but competitng
with THEM I'm screwed.

>Umm, what's with the chick and all? 

It's just a me-thang.  Shour-dude, Swee-man, Shin-dogg, Stiff-chan.. I do it
a lot.  

>He can issue challenges to his girl side,

Kuno doesn't fight his girl side.

>and Ranma would have to show up.

As the girl side.

>If I understand you correctly, Kuno wants to spend time with Ranma's 
>female form, knowing that it is in fact Ranma, secretly? Well, why doesn't
>he try any of the above tricks more often. 

My idea was that more like Kuno doesn't actively seek to transform
Ranma, because it's harder that way for him to just actively ignore
the curse.  It's hard to put my thoughts into words.

Kuno knows, and is trying to hide it.  As stupid as every one thinks
he is, it's still hard to pull tricks like that repeatedly. And
ignore the obvious shift in form.  Even the best actors can't
do it all the time. =0P

>_Inspite_ of Shampoo's prejudice towards men in general, she can 
>overlook that when she comes across someone (Ranma) that shows her she 
>and her stereotypes were wrong.

I can almost promise you this is how Shampoo thinks.  Unfortunately,
I can't be sure and it's all crap anyway.

Shampoo doesn't see herself and her stereotypes as wrong.  She thinks
of Ranma as the exception to the rule.  That means Ranma is wrong.
You see?

And Akane doesn't think Ryouga is a pervert.  So what does that have to say
about _her_ stereotypes?


>I'm sorry, I don't see what this, or the Kuno thing have to do with 
>stereotypes against a certain gender and the such,

It's more of "the such" variety.  Ranma's lumped together in the
group of "all the people he should have beaten"  Which means,
Ranma's the only guy who's beat him so far.  In Kuno's logic,
that means something is wrong.    Same thing with the women.

>Not only was Ranma promised to her,

So Ranma is a piece of property who can be promised?  I mean,
if he can be promised, then he can be owned, and if he can be owned,
then the 'owner' has a right to do whatever to him... right?
Like...... uhm... maybe hit him or whatever?

Sorry, that one just came out ^_^;  Hehehe, that wasn't particuarlly
serious.

>Hell no! There are no good or bad traits that apply to one person 
>exclusively. 

Not RL, but we're dealing with limited cast here.

>What I said was a  mere personal impression, based on the entire >series

Yeah, and based on the entire series, I think that Rei hates Usagi.
BUt we ALL know that's not true.. (okay, so maybe not all know, but still!)
The majority doesn't make it the truth.  

>Then, should I take it you agree that Akane should do something about her
>temper and self control? If you agree that it is wrong..

I never said it was wrong.  I said that it maybe wasn't right. It's
just the way it works.  

I never said that she should work on her temper and self control.
It could be worse if she did.

>I am pretty sure that he falls under the definition of an abused spouse.

I don't think so.  We should ask a professional.  And personally, I think
any man who calls me a tomboy or uncute deserves a smack on the arm ^_^

>What can Ranma do?  Tell me one thing he can do and still
>stay IC. 

Shake it off and call her a tomboy again.  

>Enlighten me, what did you mean? Why does he get hit? I don't buy 
>that it's his 'best option', if he isn't some kind of masochist. 

Ranma's options are(didn't say they were good though):

1.) Dodge
Akane would just keep swinging.  Once he gets hit she'll feel better.
*Shrugs* it's only going to make it worse.

2.) Block
Akane's going to get doubly pissed as above.  More smack-downs.

3.) Run
He'll get it sooner or later.  Then he'll get it from Genma from running
like a wussy boy. From Ryouga for not facing Akane when he's done something
wrong, and quite possibly a Demon Head from Soun.

4.) Strike back
World War Three.

5.) Take it.
Akane cools down, he takes a hit far less than what he took on a day to day
basis for 10 years, and they go on almost as normal.

Which sounds better to you?


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