Re: Ranma3434


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from "Kitiara" <hospitals@erols.com>
subject Re: Ranma3434
date Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:52:28 -0400
First off, please don't repost an entire message.  We all received Shour's
message the first time, so there's no need to repost the entire thing.  I don't
remember if that's in the FAQ or not, but it *is* appreciated. To show others
what message you're talking about, a few lines would suffice, unless you're
replying to specific parts of the message, like I am here.

>Listen don't act like everytime it's not like one person says it.

Says "it's anime, so it doesn't count"? A lot of people say that, cause it's
true.  In a discussion, anime examples are usually discounted because they're
not Takahashi's original creation.  She didn't have anything to do with the
making most of the anime - liberties are taken in the anime, and there are
several anime only episodes.  The manga is Takahashi's, therefore is canon.

If the discussion is about something in the anime itself, then anime examples
are acceptable.  In manga, or other discussions that have to do with questions
about the Ranma series, anime examples don't work.

>It's like 20 people say the same thing.

S'cause it's true.

>On top of that you should know by now that
>everyone knows this.  So there is no reason for you or anyone else to say it.

Yes, there is.  When I first subbed to the ML, I had no clue as to the
manga-is-canon thing.  If no one had said it, I think I'd still not know.  So
one reason would be newbies like I was - how else will they know? "Manga is
canon" is also said to remind the people in the discussion (I've had to be
reminded before) to look for arguments founded in the manga, instead of
bickering over non-canonical (is that a word?) anime arguments.

>Personally I've said once.  And never again.  But some of you will say it
>over and over.

In different situations, or in situations above where the arguers (another
doubtful word there. ^_^) are endlessly bickering.

> It's like do you think no one is reading?  We know the difference.

You're assuming that.  Maybe some people, new-to-Ranma newbies who haven't read
much manga, *don't* know that. You never know.  I doubt you're that omniscient.

>Why am I saying we?  I'm saying we for all the people who like
>making references to the anime and get shot down.

Shot down? That's a little harsh.  People can make references all they want -
but in a discussion, arguments should be founded in the canon.  You can bring up
anime as a point, but - as you said - you know it's not canon.  If you start
presenting anime like it *is* canon, that's when the so called "shooting down"
occurs.  It's not like a non-canonical argument will get vets riled.  It's when
someone, in this case you, rants about how you don't like the manga-is-canon
stuff.

>I'm crying.

Erm...

>And why are you saying "It's non-canon so it does doesn't matter"?

S'true.  Anime matters, just *not* *in* *this* *situation*.

>You know we know this.

You don't know that.  Some people may NOT know.  This presumption of yours is
annoying.  What about the little lurker who's new, and *doesn't* know? Do you
know what EVERYBODY here knows?

>Yet you keep saying it.  Why?

Different situation, new reminder.  A-dah.

>You don't "have" to stop.

'Cause he's right.

>And I didn't say that you did.

Yeah, you did.  Here's but one of your "stop it" messages:

<<stop shooting us down with excuses>>

There was no "please", or "I'd like you to".

Just go with us (meaning me and the vets who has said "manga-is-canon" to get
you so riled) on this one.  Don't take the manga-is-canon comment so seriously.

~Kitiara, whose head still hurts from seeing "The Blair Witch Project"
CoR, CoN, COURT, USURP, SSoAGMA, KTF, FoTGTSBRiC




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