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from Caroline Seawright <caseawr@ecr.mu.oz.au>
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date Mon, 1 Sep 1997 01:37:05 +1000 (EST)
> Yeah, right.  Then why can't he tell Akane his true feelings and tell Ukyou
> and Shampoo to leave him alone?  Because he's a *coward.*  He has a
> responsibility, and he *does not face up to it.*

Because, just like Ryouga, he's shy. Most Japanese boys his age, even in
RL, are shy.

> "Ryoga, I'm your fiance!"  Yeah, there's a hell of a lot of reasoning for
> that.  Ryoga wasn't doing anything other than trying to ask out the girl he
> loved, which is a hell of a lot more than Ranma can say.  All that was on
> Ranma mind was, "So they think they're gonna have a date, eh?  Not when I
> get through with 'em!"
> 
> And there's the time he pretended to be Ryoga's sister, to the same ends.
> I'd love to hear how those were justified.

Dur, because he's jealous. Same thing for when Akane hits him - because
she's jealous.

Very simply justified. Or would you let your SO go out with some other
guy, and be happy with it? Or would you try to stop it?

> Or how about his broken promises to Ukyou?  What has she done to him to
> justify his lying to her?  Nothing.  Therefore, the man is being a lying
> piece of scum.  Having a girl like Ukyou care about him's a lot damn more
> than he deserves, but he doesn't care about that, either, because he's a
> thoughtless brat.

Having a girl like Ukyou "care" about him is a lot more pain than
he deserves, yep.

I'd lie to get rid of her, too. Or a guy like her. ;p

> He cheats a lot more than someone like Ryoga or Ukyou does.  The only
> character that is slimier than Ranma is Genma (and that's debatable;
> they're pretty close); at least Happousai is obvious as to what he's doing.

He doesn't cheat on Akane, which is the main thing.

> He lies quite often, and he abuses Ukyou and Akane (and Shampoo, to a
> lesser extent) continually.  He's got a responsibility to both of them, and
> he shirks it.  Pathetic. 

So does everyone else. And, no, he has no responsibility to Ukyou. She
went and attached herself to him when she'd already been dumped. And
he has zero responsiblity to Shampoo and Kodachi, too. They are also
hangers-on. He only has a responsibility to Akane.

Yes, he treats her bad, but that is because he is shy.

> Yeah, he's not more abusive than any of the other characters.  Right.
> Kasumi's an awful person, isn't she?  And how about the o-so-evil Soun
> Tendo, who's house Ranma continually wrecks? 

He's not more abusive than any of the other _fighting_ characters.

> He's better than his father, but not by much, and he's still pretty damn
> scummy.  He's got a fairly good heart, but that isn't what guides him in
> most cases.  The few that it has - the Musk Dynasty story arc, for instance
> - he's a pretty decent, honorable guy.

You really are Blade, aren't you? You only hate Ranma because he mistreats
Ukyou, however much you deny it... Same with Blade... ;p

> Gee, it couldn't be because he *is,* could it?  Probably not for you
> because you're just a Ranma fanboy who's intention is to excuse all Ranma's
> actions.

Could it be that you're just an Ukyou fanboy who's intention it is to
blame everyone but Ukyou (including Takahashi-sensei) for her actions?

> How about the Secret Sauce story?  Were his actions with Ukyou acceptable?

They were perfectly acceptable for the crap Ukyou was pulling, yes.

> Or the HSH storyline, where he nearly killed Ryoga - and didn't give a damn
> whether Ryoga was alive or dead - after Ryoga had just saved his hide?  Or

Ryouga butted in his nose by trying to mess with Ranma when all Ranma
was doing was keeping Akane warm. They're both used to it, so yes. It was
perfectly acceptable.

At least Ranma didn't bash up Ryouga when he was unconsious, unlike a
certain Ukyou in the same story...

> the Asuka of the White Lillies mess?  Or the Dougi story (yeah, I found out

Akane wanted him to date Kodachi, or did you forget that?

> more about that storyline - it seems that Ranma was trying to seduce Akane
> to get rid of the suit)?  I guess you excuse him for those, too, because

That was pretty crappy of him. I'd have bashed him up, too. :p

> you're such a devoted Ranma fanboy, right?

And, lets put this back to you: You always have excuses for Ukyou, even
if they are so stupid as to insult Takahshi-sensei because you didn't
like the way in which Ukyou acted, or didn't act, or who she met, or
who she didn't meet, etc... At least here people give RANMA's reasons,
rather than saying "Takahashi-sensei wrote it like that, so blame her
not Ranma! He was OOC when doing that!" *rolls her eyes*

So stop it with the stupid insults here, because you do a hell of a lot
worse when "defending" other characters.

> Pathetic. <snort>  And let off the caps.  They make you look like an idiot.

HK, are you really Blade?

Or did you just cut and paste Blade's post from somewhere?

Kun-chan...
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