Ryouga again...


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from Francis Sanchez <fsanch@wpo.it.luc.edu>
subject Ryouga again...
date Mon, 30 Jun 1997 22:32:33 -0500
Kevin Hahn said:

<I don't think so...are you getting this from the banners on his wall? in
which one of them he could of gotten from his fateful  trip to china.
That's all I see....>

That's outside of Japan, right? ^_-

Actually, there's also a pen cup with a model of the Eiffel Tower next to it
in his room, too, so that's another one. Let's just say that he does indeed
travel outside of Japan, but he travels in Japan more than anywhere else.
^_^


> Well, I think it's been assumed he could. After all, in his travels
> around the
> world, he's been sure to have been lost in one place long enough to
> learn
> the language. Then again, this is only an assumption, so I guess you
> can't
> really say he knows or he doesn't know.

You are assuming he travels around the world, if he traveled around the
world he wouldn't be at the Tendo dojo so much.>

Heh. Again, my point above. He's been around. There are plenty of
stories with Ryouga not in them so you can only assume he's traveling
around at the time. So I guess you're making an assumption, and I'm
making an assumption, so it doesn't matter. *shrugs*

> As for his education, I suppose it isn't that important in the story.
> Ryouga's pretty street smart, I'd think ^_-

You think????? na, just kidding. But that is another assumtion.>

So's you're assumption that he's not smart because of his highest level of
education, where we don't see any evidence of any academic weakness
to Ranma....

<Ok, ok but every time he's around Ranma he's like I'm so abused, it's
all your fault Ranma.......And he's still holding a grudge after all
this time.>

Well, here we go again...the "crybaby" Ryouga argument. I'm getting a
little tired of defending agaist it. ^_^

As I have said before, this is quite a justifiable attitude, and it is one that
he certainly _does _not_ hold against Ranma _all the time_. Some of the
time, yes. All of the time, i.e. "every time he's around Ranma", no. After all,
I've always felt that Ranma and Ryouga have some kind of grudging
friendship between them.

And again, I say, if you had gone through being forever cursed, almost
eaten, and having to deal with that curse, all on top of the fact that you
have no direction sense....wouldn't you feel the same way? Ryouga
certainly has been through two kinds of hell..and all because of one
person, too, even if it is indirect.  The first fight thing you could possibly
argue with, but the Jusenkyo curse thing, and the cooking? Not good, at
least for Ryouga.

< He didn't know that it was Ranma that pushed him in at the
time when Ranma gave him the bread. >

Yeah, but he _did_ know that if Ranma had waited for him one more day,
they would have fought and Ryouga wouldn't have had to follow Ranma
and get cursed. Ranma is less at fault in this time frame, but we find out
that he's a little more at fault than we think, in the later story....

<Ryoga didn't take responsibility for
his own actions, he's the one who ran after Ranma, he's the one that got
in Ranma's way.>

Ha! I find this funny. "Got in Ranma's way?" He didn't even think that
anyone was following the panda until he heard "Come back here, y'old
fool!" And by then, it was too late....

You're forgetting the sense of honor in martial arts and in Ranma 1/2 in
general. What was Ryouga supposed to do, stay put, and wonder
forever afterwards what would have happened had he followed? He
had no idea of what would happen to him,  and he _Ddd_ want to finish
his fight with Ranma. Ryouga's the type of person, I think, who doesn't
like to leave things unsettled - I think martial arts is somewhat like that in
Ranma 1/2...

< Ranma was concentrating on Genma and the fight,>

Nitpick: This was already after the fight. An angry Onna-Ranma was
chasing Genma. They weren't fighting. He didn't even notice Ryouga. Ah
well. It's understandable, considering.

<he
didn't see Ryoga, and if he had what good would it of done? He was in
mid-air.>

Frankly, I've speculated that with the skills Ranma has, he could have
easily have done something to get out of the air or keep Ry from falling.

< Plus Genma's actions toward Ryoga were justified, how was Genma
to know that it was Ryoga when he hadn't even met him before?>

Irrelevant. It could have been a mistake, but Ryouga had to be cursed to
go through that, and Ranma indirectly cursed him, which wouldn't have
happened if Ranma had waited, etc., etc...Granted, Ryouga was a little
irrational in his anger, but having gone through all that, I don't blame him.

<He shows no sign of leaving early...he left the very same day he was
supposed to be at the vacant lot.>

That's true. Still someone should have suggested someone, either person,
anyway. Ryouga could have been more responsible, but Ranma could
have been good enough to remind Ryouga of his horrible sense of
direction. Whatever.

<Nope, he only asks Ranma to take him home so that he can go meet
Akane
at his house, and this was for his purposes only. While Ranma was
taking
him there he thoght " I'll stuff you in a bag and dump you into the
river" or something to that extent. He never swallowed his pride.>

Hey, but the fact remains is that he asked his biggest rival to do a _favor_
for him. That takes a lot of swallowing of pride. It doesn't matter what he
was going to do to him. I think Ry's the kind of person who wouldn't ask if
he didn't ahve to, y'know? But maybe we are interpreting the same
situation differently. It happens.

^_^,
Frank

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