this same article also got picked up on comcasts news site.. and msnbc's

//begin rant

I 'love' the spin the writer put on it.. implying that cartoons are not just 
being watched by children and 'geeks' .. but also by women... Yeah.. lets 
not even try and confront the truth that a lot of men... not just geeky 
men.. enjoy anime

**rolls eyes**

I'm sorry, but there is the typical  condescending tone carried throughout 
the article still smacks of the american viewpoint of looking at anime as 
just "cartoons... and that cartoons are only for kids".
People  need to be a lot more honest about things and stop trying to pretend 
to be "uber cool" on the surface when they are just denying the underlaying 
truth that they themselves are no where near as cool and sophisticated as 
they are trying to pretend to be.

//pause rant
Though I'm not a fan of  his.. I have to say this about Vin Desiel 
(chronicals of Riddick and triple X) this is a guy that is totally down and 
honest with himself and others. The guy knows what he enjoys, and he's 
comfortable with it the way more people should be. Durring interviews he's 
made it clear, he's a big D&D fan, still plays it... loves all sorts of 
other "geeky" things because they're oool as far as he's concerned and 
doesn't give a damn what others think of him for his personal likes. This 
from a guy that you'd think to look at him is just one more of the vanity 
crowd.
//unpause rant

Me, I'm looking forward to the day that AMS! the xth movie plays in my local 
movie theater, and it's not looked at as some kids show, but something you 
take your girlfriend or family to see with you, or maybe when there's a 
Miyazaki Studio Ghibli film showing in the same theater as the latest Disney 
released animated tripe.

Don't get me wrong, it's an encouraging article... but hell, you could tell 
by reading it, the author probably hasn't even watched anime. I mean the 
devil hunter Yohko reference was a dead giveaway.. goblins? goblins?!... 
Jees louise, if the author has watched a couple eps of the series  she'd 
know what it was actually about... maybe the author could then followed that 
up by then  watching a couple eps of Buffy the Vampire Slayer (which I must 
add, won critical aclaim for it's "originality" here in the states) and draw 
some serious comparisons. Maybe then  she'd know where Joss Whedon stole the 
ideas for this successful series from, Joss has even gone so far as to list 
DHY as the inspiration for BTVS. Inspiration my you-know-what...it was 
outright theft. Me, I'd just like to once have an article like this written 
up by an author who actually watched a good chunk of anime... and not the 
kiddy or porn garbage... and then wrote an article that said what they 
thought of it.

Siskle and Ebert once reviewed Ghost in the shell in the original japanese 
with subtitles.. both gave it an enthusiastic thumbs up for being a smart, 
sharp, hard hitting and intelligent movie.  not cartoon.. MOVIE. They saw 
the difference, and commented on it. I just wish more reporters would see 
the medium for what it is.. just another way to tell a story... the same way 
that books differ from radioplays which differ from tv shows and movies. 
Each is their own medium.

//end rant



----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Mandalis" <mandalis@earthlink.net>
To: <megami@ml.usagi.org>; "tenchi" <tenchi@ml.usagi.org>; 
<3x3eyes@sazan.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 7:31 PM
Subject: [megami:30956] INteresting mainstream article about Anime and Manga 
In general


> HI
>
> This looks like a puff piece, but seems to try to intro the main stream 
> reader to Anime and Manga.  See 
> http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20041210f4.htm
>
> Dave M.
>
>