Re: summary


to megami@ml.usagi.org
from Kitsu <legionkat@yahoo.com>
subject Re: summary
date Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:33:08 -0700 (PDT)
I'm going to try to cut out the bits that don't really
matter in the argument.

> So far so good. Now: we know Belldandy is at least
> more skilled, if not more 
> powerful, than Urd. " (Ch. 131, Skuld: "Oneesama no
> uta wa tenkaiichi nan 
> dakara" "Sister's song is number one in Heaven") Urd
> obviously has power in 
> her ancestry from Hild. Therefore, I assume that
> Belldandy (and Skuld for 
> that matter) must have some equally impressive power
> in their ancestry.

Assuming that power is transferred by heredity, yes,
you could assume so. Assumption #1.

 Since 
> their mother is not Hild, I choose to assume that
> their father is Kamisama. 

... sooooo, you're just going to assume that? I think
that is a fallacy called circular reasoning. If you
are going to prove that their father is Kami-sama, one
of your arguments can't be, I'm assuming their father
is Kami-sama. Assumption #2.

> True, this gives more power to Urd, but we already
> knew that Urd is 
> inherently very powerful, just not skilled at using
> that power all the time. 
> Putting Kamisama in Belldandy's direct ancestry
> accounts for this power 
> difference/balance.

No, it doesn't actually. They have the same father, so
if there is a difference in RAW power it is the
diference in mothers. It doesn't make one bit of
diference if the father was Kami-sama or Bob the
Street Cleaner. He's a constant value, big or
miniscule.

Following your assumption that power is hereditary,
Kami-sama (if the father) would pass the same power to
his children, all of them, Bell, Skuld, and Urd. The
only difference would be in the mother's contribution.

Also, same as if it were Bob. He would give the same
power to each, and the only difference would be in the
mother's contribution.

Remember, Urd is supposed to have been descend from
the Lord of Terror, pretty good odds on that being a
source of good innate power, eh?

> It also lends a nice symmetry to
> things; I know symmetry 
> doesn't count for anything in the way for proof, but
> it's a neat way of 
> looking at it.

Umm,...yeah. I suppose when we get down to it, if
Fujishima thinks it would be neat, it's going to
happen. Too bad none of us are him, or at least within
questioning distance, not that he'd answer, but we
could ask.

> Hild also enjoys picking on Kamisama, saying things
> like "Kami ni kakete 
> chikau wa." "I swear by God" and later "Aa, Kami
> yo!" "Oh, God!", making me 
> think there is *personal* enmity (and perhaps some
> leftover affection as 
> Brian Welch noted) between Hild and Kamisama.

Or maybe it's just really amusing to have a demon
doing it.

> In other words, my argument: Urd's parents = Hild
> and Kamisama, who then 
> split. Kamisama then fathered Belldandy and Skuld
> with an unknown goddess.

That's not an argument, it's a conclusion. I can't
find the argument in this post. Just two assumptions
and an opinion of what would be neat.

> The major sticking point and weakness in my argument
> is that I assume first 
> of all that power is hereditary,

Nope, minor point, your post has much bigger holes.

> and that second of

Nope, that one wasn't second, not even third...

> all no god is equal in 
> power to Hild except Kamisama. I think the second
> assumption is fairly valid. 

Well, I guess the only thing that implies is that Bell
and Skuld's mom probably isn't a slouch.

> Edward Chang, Skuld no Shinpu
> Founder of the Coalition Requiring Animated Peorth
> "Atashi tte yappari tensai!" -- Skuld
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