Re: Skuld Distro? (was the OT discussion that turned into a mac


to <megami@ML.usagi.org>, ryk spoor <seawasp@intranaut.com>
from G3 <kharaku@kharaku.com>
subject Re: Skuld Distro? (was the OT discussion that turned into a mac
date Tue, 01 Aug 2000 13:29:17 -0400
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> Hmm.... eye candy in physical form. *shakes head* I think a "gel
> light" cube which glowed would have been cool, ala their
> "Quartz" theme. ;)

it is kind of a futuristic looking toaster... a divine looking one, but a
toaster.  The DVD is slot loading from the top...
 
>> At the moment Cobalt is suing Apple so I think you might want to watch out
>> for them... 
> 
> Yeah heard about that. Interesting though. ;)
> 
>> (how they intend to avoid the fact that Apple now holds the
>> rights to the NeXTCube I don't know...
> 
> The argument for defending against a Next Cube lawsuit is pretty much the
> same as the argument against the Cobalt Qube lawsuit. Different
> markets. Next Cube was a cube workstation with a display panal. The G4
> Cube is a cube shaped piece of plexiglass workstation. The Cobalt Cube is
> a standalone server.
> 
> But it should be interesting to see how it pans out.

they way its set up it looks more like a Plexiglas base holding the cube on
on a pedestal...

>> Personally I wouldn't piss Jobs off..
> 
> Personally.. and no insult meant to anyone except Jobs.. I think the guy
> is a short tempered tempermental artist trapped in a marketer's body.
> 
> I mean.. *shakes head*

He never really grew up i think...

If Skuld ran a computer company I can see her reacting with similar
vehemence to small things...

>> he's likely to counter sue and get their right to ship Qubes revoked for
>> infringing on the NeXTCube...
> 
> It would be interesting to see that happen since they are in different
> markets. But at the same time, the three cubes in question, aside from a
> cube shape, bears no resemblance to each other. ^_^;; Might as well get
> Sun involved with their half-cube shaped IPC/IPX/Classic/etc shoebox body
> cases.

well its the total dis similarity in Cobalts case that make me think all
Apple ahs to do is say, look we came up with the cube first see (NeXT
Cube..) they'd have to be pretty mean to counter sue...  I s'pose their all
similar in that they are unix based...

>> after all this is the guy that when ATI made a silly little slip up
>> that Apple was introducing more power macs, striped all ATI info from
>> his keynote and trid to strike up an agreement on the fly with a rival
>> company (they wouldn't commit to anything in such short notice...)
> 
> Proves once again that Jobs prolly got his own eight legged white thingies
> crawling around his brain stem. -_-

(you know when people say bug up the @$$ I'd never thought of that kind of
bug...)
 
>> back t the point though, aside from UI stuff what else would a Skuld
>> Distribution have in it...?
> 
> Hammers. ;) But perhaps a large pool of water serving as the
> background/desktop from which objects/applications "splash" out of? And
> submerge when minimized or closed?

Perhaps they would all just have that frost white and red
elegant-mechanically look skuld's inventions have...  The idea of everything
coming out of water is neat but in true Unix geek fashion it have to be more
complicated... real time flowing water background with ethereal light
projection effect for opening and closing items, and life like water flow
around the area it comes out of...
 
>> Interestingly MacOS X Darwin being Open Sourced I suspect an x86 and PowerPC
>> Skuld Distribution could be feasible...  but aside from UI what would set
>> them apart?
>> -G3
> 
> It'd be cool to see a Skuld distro. :) But the question is... would Jobs
> really fully release the source? Or would he leave in something which
> essentially makes it baited source? ^_^; Sorry, just seems like the kind
> of thing he'd do.

the core is totally open... but things like Quartz and Cocoa aren't...
unfortunately to make a good Skuld UI Quartz and QuickTime would be
essential...

> But some of the other non-MacOS-X based configurable GUI's can be made to
> do it.
> 
> For some reason, I'm thinking a translucent pool of water with caustic
> light and ripple/wave distortion and surface reflection. Under the water
> surface are minimized icons and other "background tasks". Bringing to the
> foreground makes them break the water surface and drip a bit before
> floating over the body of water, casting a soft shadow. Minimizing would
> re-submerge it and/or shrink it down.

neat idea no doubt...

> Windows float at various levels and related programs(parent/child
> processes) have little "threads of fate" interconnected them which float
> and drift a bit. So that there is an indication of what will die or be
> affected when one program is closed. Zombie processes and other runaway
> jobs might be indicated on the desktop as a "Bug" popping up and skitting
> across the surface of the water like water mosquitoes.
> 
> Thoughts? :)

between my thoughts and yours the OS would be so enjoyable to watch you'd
probably never get any work done... as for error messages i can see bugs
popping on to screen and yelling the error message... varying bug numbers
for the intensity of the error... 0_0

-G3


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