'CuSO4' Yung wrote:
> 
> > From: weizhi@pacific.net.sg <weizhi@pacific.net.sg>
> >>The quality is much lower then even a normal class VHS...
> >Regarding your comment on the quality of VCD , A vcd is definately of a
> >better quality than the VHS as it is digitally mastered. It also has a
> >longer life span than normal VHS .... yes, 100-120 years.
> 
> VCD do have longer retention period, but quality-wise VHS is much better.
> Being "digital mastered" do not mean better qulaity : e.g. LD is better
> than VCD.  VHS can be surpringly good, even using normal VHS.

exactly ^_^
Even a bit deteriorated CHS still beats VCD...
(even by using the new VCD technology... I'd still go for VHS or
SHVS....)

> To compare VHS versus VCD, IMHO, you either use a very large screen,
> or you can feed both video source into your PC.  Even at 640x480, VHS
> is good, whereas you can find many color "square" when viewing VCD.

VCD may be dangerous to your eyes (LOL)
But it really doesn't require a professional to tell anyone the quality
difference, I think.
 
> >>2)you're blind, so you don't care about quality, and you don't care
> >>about sound  quality either
> >Well , that applies only to LD , not VHS.
> 
> See above.

got to agree with CuSO4 here.
(just try it, and compare it... and see for yourself... quite evident...
just pop in the same anime into a relatively large screen, and compare
it yourself..._

> >>3)You like the shiny silver color coating of a CD....
> >For your info , VCD comes in green, blue, greenish blue , gold (24k) ,
> >greenish gold ... each with its unique quality and life span. I personally
> >prefer the gold (24k) type.
> 
> Mass production of normal VCD should come in silver color, or sometimes
> gold.

(I've never seen a gold mass produced VCD...? where?) This is
interesting...
How the pick up, and failure rate for pressing?

> All those green, blue, and greenish blue are CD-R, which cost much higher
> than mass production VCD.

CDR....???? this is crazy... CD-Rs DO DETERIORATE.... since when did you
start burning your CD-Rs, weizhi@pacific.net.sg????? No different then
VHS, since they both eventually deteriorate.... well, maybe not as fast
as VHS.....

...and uhmmm... weizhi@pacific.net.sg... the VC do NOT come (sold,
retailed) in green, blue, etc... those are hand made... and in some
countries and region, it's copyright violation. (even if it's for
personal viewing....) So I wouldn't scream too loud about it (one of the
rules on the ML is, you can't support pirate publicly here.)
 
> >>4)You want to drive Animation out of business (this is since most, or
> >>all Japanese animation is first released in LD/DVVD, etc... VCD formats
> >>are usually done when licenced out to second part, etc. so doesn't bring
> >>as much $$$ to the original anime creators... (gee, they are
> >>starving...?)), or LD/DVD/tapes makers out of business, or retaliers out
> >>of business....
> >Well , we are still paying a hell lot of money for anime recorded in VCD
> >form. for example, The complete set of AMG here in singapore can cost up to
> >US$50.
> 
> Kenji's point is that VCD is NOT the main source of income of the anime
> production house or the distribution company.  Buying VHS/LD/DVD can help
> them, but not VCD.

exactly., as CuSO4 pointed out for me, what the fans (should) care about
is, does that money go to the ANIME CREATORS, to support their life, and
help them make another new title in the future. No money to creators=no
more anime from them. (simple, isn't it?)

One reason why I don't buy anything from Nintendo or Konami... they seem
to love killing off fans, and ripping them off....

> USD50 for 5 episodes of AMG on VCD actually is a rip-off.  In Hong Kong,
> the licensed AMG VCD set only cost you USD20.  (Mass production VCD, not
> CD-R).

(I have yet to see a CD-R VCD for retail sale... ^_^;;;)
 
> >>7)you never heard of LDs or DVDs, or tapes....
> >In my country , LD WAS avaliable almost 2 years before VCD started to
> >become popular. Well , i guess we just kick LD out of the market. By the
> >way DVD is already popular here, for you info.
> 
> LD is only 2 years before VCD ?  I thought Singapore is well advance
> in AV market.

I thought so too.....
DVD might be popular for the "mass, the public, etc"... but NOT for the
anime fans.... at least, not in this country...... not much DVD anime
software anyway... (compared to LD...)
 
> >Well , i am holding on to both the VCD and LD version of AMG ... i don't
> >really see the difference though.
> 
> You mean the quality of VCD and LD are the same ?

Maybe this guy needs a bigger screen, or a eye check up..... no
kidding... really... try comparing them again.... (not only picture
quality, but sound too..... a nice stereo surround speaker would be nice
to test it....)

Kenji Shimizu