Re: Brian on Powerlevels
to | megami@ML.usagi.org
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from | The Newcomer <doc13@student.canterbury.ac.nz>
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subject | Re: Brian on Powerlevels
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date | Mon, 03 Aug 1998 19:28:56 +1300
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> >There we have it. Newcomer, Brian, if you could come up with some
> >examples, that'd be nice. Good luck to you though, 'cos I went through
> >about 14 volumes and couldn't find a thing.
> Looking at this from a logical perspective, of course, it's up to the
> "Belldandy is now more powerful" side of the argument to prove their point,
An argument to which Sam's side avoided commenting on, if I recall
> since Belldandy said twice in Ch 14 ('Sexy Sister' in DH) that Urd was more
> powerful and Fujishima reminded us of this in Ch 34 ('Terrible Master Urd 1'
> in DH). While it hasn't been mentioned since Ch 34, that hardly proves the
> "Belldandy is now more powerful" argument. It is easier to argue that
> Fujishima-san thinks he has made his point and sees no reason to keep
> reminding us.
> So, I also took a look through the manga for something that might indicate
> that Fujishima-san now considers Belldandy to be the more powerful sister.
> Regardless of perceptions, the fact of the matter is that nowhere in the
> manga has it ever been said that Belldandy is more powerful than Urd. I'm
> not saying that Fujishima-san can't have changed his mind, just that there
> is no explicit statement to that effect.
> Volumes 5 and earlier don't count, since the 'Terrible Master Urd' arc ends
> in Volume 6. The chapters in which the moonrock bracelets are being used
> don't count since Belldandy and Urd are at the same power level for those
> chapters. If you want to argue that Belldandy can do more on the same
> amount of power than Urd, I agree completely. Skuld says Urd wastes her
> power in Ch 44 ('Queen of Vengeance' in DH), and I see no reason to argue
> with her.
Perhaps, one might even argue, this is due to the fact that she's used to
having a far greater reserve of power to draw upon, no?
When one is used to having a lot, one is less conservative in it's
uses....
> Belldandy pulls out an atomic energy force ball, but does that take more
> power than Urd's lightning bolts? It requires a more complex spell,
> perhaps, but Urd is more than powerful enough to handle Troubador with
> lightning or even a right cross. I don't see that this chapter proves
> anything one way or the other.
As Fujishima said, Bell has far more -control- than Urd. You can take this
to mean that bell has more resraint than urd, or that she has higher "fine
manipulation.
I think if the two sisters had to open a door, one would knock, the other
would use a battering ram (^_-)
> Belldandy sends Garm packing. Why doesn't Urd help Belldandy fend off Garm?
> A couple points here:
> 1) Urd doesn't do force shields. Other than Ch 14 which was nothing more
> than a sisterly spat, we've never seen Urd throw up a shield (that I can
> remember). Belldandy, meanwhile, has used them on several occasions.
> Perhaps shields are more difficult to generate than energy beams and
> lightning (they certainly are from a technological perspective) and Urd
> hasn't the skills to throw up a really powerful one like Belldandy uses.
Like I said: could be to do with fine manipulation.
> I'd have to say that this chapter comes the closest I have seen to
> supporting the "Belldandy is now more powerful" argument, but the evidence
> is shaky.
I agree. Shaky indeed.
> Ch 60: (not in DH yet)
> Belldandy declares a truce and threatens anyone that breaks it. Urd
> certainly abides by the truce, but she was letting Belldandy lay down the
> law way back in Ch 14. When Belldandy talks like that, people listen! ^_^
i don't think any of the sisters has the ability to truly "threaten" one
another. Urd views everything as a joke, Bell is far too nice at heart,
and Skuld.. well Skulds Skuld when you get right down to it.
Although I'd watch out for a bop of the mallet if you ignore her when she
wants to be taken seriously ^_^
> OK, that's what I've come up with so far. I may have missed something, but
> I'm sure you'll point it out! ^_^
> Brian Welch
Glad you bought it up, dude!
The volume was somewhat lacking.
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